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#73

That’s what “ushered it through congress” means, miss Eeengliss teechah. :laughing:

#74

“NAFTA signed by Bush 41” means “Clinton signed it into law.” Gotcha. Ya little weasel.

#75

Bush negotiated and signed NAFTA. Here’s him doing it:

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Bush ran out of time and had to pass the required ratification and signing of the implementation law to incoming president Bill Clinton.

Here’s Clinton signing it into law:

NAFTA was negotiated by Bush and signed by Bush. It was ratified during Clinton.

Clear as mud?

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#76

Oh damn it. I forgot the pictures! Thanks Starling.

#77

Don’t go all simple on me. Lotus - not that you can help it.

#78

Bush didn’t sign NAFTA. He signed agreements between the US and two of the other signatories. Clinton got it through Congress, which Bush had failed to do, and Clinton signed it into law. Democrats are always better at passing blatantly conservative bills than CONs are.[quote=“Starling, post:75, topic:17545”]
Bush ran out of time and had to pass the required ratification and signing of the implementation law to incoming president Bill Clinton.

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^^^^^^^^^

#79

NAFTA passed the House 234 to 200. House Democrats voted against it 156 to 102. Republicans supported it 132 to 43. The sole Independent—Bernie Sanders—voted against it.

#80

^^^^^^^^
That’s where this argument started. Misinformation from Holly Tinyhands.

#81

I already said more CONs voted for it than Dems. That wasn’t my point. I was talking about the evil neolib Clinton. Why are you defending that monster?

#82

He didn’t sign NAFTA, Lotus - no misinformation there. He did usher it through congress. Again no misstatement of facts.

#83

He didn’t sign NAFTA? He just SAID he signed it, and was filmed and photographed signing it, and history shows he signed it, but he didn’t sign it. OK. Gotcha, Holly Tinyhands.

#84

I’m not - I left the Dem party because of conservative policies which started with him and have continue since. You know that.

#85

Why are you claiming he didn’t sign NAFTA?

#86

Lotus, signing the agreement - being a signatory to it, and signing it into law are not the same thing.

#87

There a picture above of him signing NAFTA which he negotiated. That document was then ratified.

I’m not sure where the disconnect is because you seem to be getting it.

/shrug

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#88

Because he didn’t. Bush 41 did - just as YOUR linked articles state.

#89

She doesn’t like being wrong particularly if it means I’m right. :laughing:

Now do you get it?

#90

You’re an idiot. What 41 signed did not make NAFTA law. Clinton could have lobbied against NAFTA, and probably would have won. But instead he lobbied for it, it passed Congress thanks to him, and he signed the legislation into law. Bush signed the implementation papers, meaning the terms were basically set under 41. Clinton signed the fucking law, which he made fucking possible. He could have fucking stopped it, but he fucking LIKED it, so he fucking got it done.

#91

I don’t see Clinton signing it into law as being in dispute.

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#92

and I left the party because they went all Corporate Whore Conservative. That was in the early 90’s, Lotus - back when “liberal” Democrates were promoting Cato institute Libertarian policies on immigration also. Get it? Cato was in the ear of Washington on everything then and set up the conservative takeover of our goobermint culminating what can only be termed a coup by corporatists in this election. Let me again welcome you for joining us in recent times, but know that you have much yet to GET.