So, I have this friend

I’ve heard of this theory before but everyone knows they were used to store grain.

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The CC theory

Like mother fuckers spent a half million lives and 200 years to build a fucking grain silo

that must be it

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Did ya ever see the trebuchet contests where they throw a watermelon or sich like half a mile

serious cash and time and cash spend on this -

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6zmMWfzv38

It’s funny to see so many adults who have gone through their education without the Internet who completely fail to use critical thinking when reading things on the internet. There seems to be this belief that if it’s in writing it must be true. It’s been baffling to watch the Internet turn relatively intelligent people into complete morons.

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They were morons to begin with

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I’ll use my mother as an example. My mother is a brilliant woman. Probably one of the most intelligent women I know. She is an RN who has worked damn near every corner of a hospital. She taught advanced life support, pediatric life support and critical care to doctors and nurses all over our province for years. She developed the algorhythms on crash carts. She was also a diabetic and rural nurse educator. You get my drift - she’s no dummy.

Now put her in front of a computer and she will download every virus on the planet. She can fuck up a PC faster than a three move checkmate.

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Same story with my wife - ICU an ER RN - and can’t run the remote for direct tv without hundreds of hours of coaching

A lot of highly educated people grew up reading printed words that their educators had vetted and believed to be true. If you are in medicine, the only time you need critical thinking is when you’re reading a paper in a journal that proposes to change the way you understand shit you thought you already understood.

Such people have a hard time with the internet which is prolly 75% bullshit and they don’t have the mental reflexes in place to know what to question.

The educated people who have the best odds of surviving the internet are gonna be your liberal arts grads, and many of them will fail also.

By the same token, there is a strain of undereducated folks who have made life choices that broke and rebuilt them, who are accustomed to examining their own thinking at every turn, and they will probably be okay.

That’s a very generous estimate. Perhaps you don’t get around the innernets that much.

My contention (based on the way I see young people using smart phones and the internet) is that very few young people have that ability anymore. Everything is being spoon fed to them, they participate in online networks that allow them to check with others before they make any decisions, and they are in constant contact with their parents. Very little room is left for them to make the kinds of mistakes that inspire introspection and/or critical thinking.

More likely, my estimate is skewed due to my fondness for porn sites. :heart_eyes:

I wouldn’t argue with that, but the subpopulation I’m speaking of is one that includes people of all ages who have in common that they are people in “recovery.”

Yeah. My subgroup is 18-20 year old college students of all walks of life. People in recovery are often self-selected for being introspective.

I’m not sure I agree with you here. I figure nurses have to critically assess every single situation that comes at them. They have to review new medical and scientific information all day, every day.

I think that stems more from helicopter parenting than anything else. Kids don’t play anymore without their parents sitting on the play ground with them.

I’m not sure we actually disagree. Certified public accountants (for that matter) have to assess every situation they confront, and they also have to review new tax code information and other legal stuff constantly. But like nurses, they have the luxury of being able to trust the printed material that they hold in their hand as being “true” and not requiring any further vetting by them.

You don’t think nurses have to critically assess every case that comes in? Do you think there is nothing new or nothing they haven’t seen before? Do you think they don’t make decisions on the fly with the information they are presented? Do you not think they see things that they’ve never seen before? Do you not think they have to research and parse data?

My mother was a diabetic and nurse educator. She was constantly researching new information as medicine is in a constant state of flux and development. That extends from drugs to treatments to new diseases.

So yes, we actually disagree.

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@LotusBud

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No, we do not. What is happening is that I’ve presented to you an argument couched in terms you “don’t like” and rather than thinking critically to see why I might have a point, you are imputing to me the same definitions and concepts you hold and deeming me to be wrong. I’m going offline now for a couple of hours but I’ll come back later and work on this until we sort it out.